I know I'm jumping the gun a bit here, but we're about to make our first signing of the Roberto Mancini era, our first signing of the decade, so forgive my being a bit excited about it.
And one of the main reasons for my excitement is that it marks another first: the first World Cup winner ever to play for Manchester City. Never before has anyone with a World Cup winner's medal played for City, never mind winning one while being a blue. We haven't even had anyone play for us who then went on to win a medal after having left. So this is a big deal. (Vieira will be the second player currently in the EPL with such a medal - guess the other in the comments.)
Patrick Vieira, of course, was part of the France side who triumphed in France '98. He was not a regular, but he played all of France's third group game against Denmark, and came on for the last fifteen minutes of the final against Brazil. Not a huge contribution, true, but not no contribution either, and certainly enough for the medal.
He's not, though, the first man with a World Cup winner's medal to be involved with City. In the 1995/96 season we were managed by Alan Ball - who won the World Cup with England - but we famously thought that a point was enough against Liverpool on final day and were relegated.
The holy grail is to have a player win the World Cup while playing for the club, something we've never really come close to. There was a time for indignation at the exclusion of Bert Trautmann from the victorious West Germany squad of 1954, but I think that's passed now. This time, though, we've got a decent shot: Robinho, Gareth Barry, Carlos Tévez and Nigel de Jong will all go and all have good chances of winning. We have no Spain internationals, but if Vieira does well enough to make the plane then we're in a good position.
Back to Vieira, and a similar topic: he is only the third player to have won the European Championship and then come to City. He was part of France's triumph in 2000, as was Nicolas Anelka - who joined us only two years later. The third is Peter Schmeichel, who won it with Denmark in 1992, a whole ten years before he joined Kevin Keegan's City (there are some parallels between our signing Schmeichel and Vieira - to be covered some other time.)
Then there's the Copa America. Again, nobody won it while playing for City, but two won it soon before joining us. Elano and Robinho both played for Brazil in their 2007 triumph - a few weeks before Elano signed, just over a year before Robinho did.
Finally, the African Cup of Nations - which starts this weekend - is an area where we have a very good record. For a start, it is the only international tournament I can find which has been won by a contemporary City player. Lucien Mettomo won the 2002 African Cup of Nations while at the club, and his Cameroon team-mate Marc-Vivien Foé joined City four months after their joint triumph. Both Mettomo and Foé had won it previously in 2000, before either of them joined City; and Hatem Trabelsi won it in 2004, two years before Stuart Pearce signed him.
There will be more, and more useful, Vieira stuff once we've actually signed him.
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In all the excitement I forgot I wrote a similar post a few months ago - see here http://tldorc.blogspot.com/2009/03/world-cup-winners.html. Some interesting stuff about Diomede in the comments there too, which I had forgotten.
I think Belletti of Chelsea won it with Brazil in 2002
Roberto seems to have followed Sven by installing a cultural leader in Patrick
followed Sven?, are you nuts, Sven was a complete flop and you have to be a complete nut to think otherwise.
All of his signings were absolute rubbish not to mention the fact Stephen Ireland was about to hand in a transfer request under the Sven reign until he was sacked.
Im getting bored of hearing City fans big up Sven especially after the humiliation we were put through seeing our team loose 8-1 to Middlesbrough and then find out our club employees were laughing a few minutes later.
Sven was a complete joke.
Welcome to Manchester Vieira.
CityBlue, not all. Martin Petrov has proved his worth time and time again.
Sepp Blatter would tell you that the Confederations Cup is a major international tournament, in which case we can claim two victories by City players: Robi and Ralph won last year's.
I would disagree with Sepp Blatter, but you're right.
Congrats to Wing Ho Tom.
CityBlue
I don't agree. Petrov, Elano and Bojinov were all good signings. Bojinov was extremely unlucky to get serious injuries. Had he stayed fit, i think we would have finished higher than 9th that season.
Elano was quality but Hughes either couldn't man manage him or decided he was a bad influence in dressing room. (If the latter, Hughes right to ship him out, but get the feeling Mancini would have managed likes of Elano better.)
Not saying Sven did a great job but how can you call him a complete flop when he inherited a far worse side than Hughes, had less money to spend, hardly any pre-season time to identify and sign players, and still finished higher than MH in his first season.
Well if Mancini gets Viera playing like Sven did Hamann, then it could be an excellent signing for dictacting the tempo of our matches. And Sven's signings rubbish? I'd have to disgree with Boj, Elano, Petrov, Corluka, and even Geovanni as he was on a free. Only the lovable Bianchi can be a real flop given price-tag (Fernades and Caicedo are young, and Benji scored against the rags, so all forgiven)
What about Nery 'el Diablo' Castillo?
Jack, didn't Castillo pay some of his transfer/loan fee and also unlucky with injury? But yes wouldn't argue he had limited impact and therefore must go down as a flop...
@StanMCFC I believe Castillo paid £250,000 for his loan for that 6 months or so?
I see I'm a voice in the wilderness on here.
Sven was Roberto's coach in Italy and significantly influenced his subsequent methods.
I'm not comparing Roberto's performance with Sven as City manager.
Johnny
Shouldn't that be: Sven was Roberto's manager (RM was Sven's assistant when he first moved into coaching)? No one thought you were comparing the two. At least I didn't.
Just thought description of Sven's tenure as a complete flop was extremely harsh.
Anyway it's all about Mancini now and I for one am delighted with his appointment and the way he's gone about the job.
I'm with StanMCFC in both thinking the 'Sven' slagging was harsh, and know you were talking styles not performances, Johnny. Let's hope it stays that way for the whole season eh?
PS: poor Castillo, bet his missus absolutely bollocked him
I've learned that a lot of City fans are kings of hyperbole. Sven being a "flop" being one hyperbole. Everyone knows Sven was thrown out way before the 8-1 thrashing- the club was being run by a delusional, irrational owner and the players were obviously affected by that.
I liked Hughes and Sven for different reasons and I thought both of them deserved more time. Mancini may be better than both of them and may be more of what the owners wanted from the beginning, so hopefully he will get more time.
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